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August 24, 2004
T-Shirt Controversy
Posted by Laura Rich at 3:36 PM
For the most part, Inc. readers embrace their fellow entrepreneurs featured within the pages of each issue. But the appearance of Ani DiFranco in the September issue with the words "I had an abortion" across her t-shirt generated a different response -- and left a pile of mail on editors' desks at the magazine. Readers haven't taken issue with DiFranco's success building a profitable record label, which has sold more than 4 million of DiFranco's records and CDs from other artists. They just don't like the shirt she's wearing.
The full-page photo opening the piece features a smiling DiFranco seated on the edge of a chair, her guitar tucked comfortably under her arm. She is wearing a t-shirt that appears to read, "I had an abortion." Many readers were offended.
Some might say that business and politics don't mix, but others might say that fashion is just fashion.
What do you think?
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What the Pro-Choice crowd doesn't seem to realize is that the rest of us consider abortion murder. If that's what you believe, that shirt might as well have said "I murdered my own baby." See how that is a bit upsetting? It doesn't matter how well you've done in business if you consider convenient murder something to be proud of or used for political gain.
Ben: do you see how the first and last sentences of your comment negate each other logically? Ms. DiFranco can't be assumed to share your belief that abortion is murder. With all due respect to your beliefs, slipping these kinds of fallacies into your arguments does you no service.
And if it were an NRA teeshirt?
Geez, she might as well just wear a shirt saying "Everyone deserves the freedom of choice."
-Can you tell I'm a pro-choice girl?
Ben, nobody is going to force you to have an abortion if you don't want one ;)
Ok what I don't understand is how people tend to forget that we all have a FREEDOM OF SPEACH, and along with that you have to understand that not everyone has the same opinion, live with it and get over it because that is life! That is why most people live in the United States, so if it offends you so much that a person wears a shirt stating a fact or an opinion that you do not agree with you need to leave, and that is my opinion!!! See now take that and run with it, get a grip on reality!
Angela:
1) If you're going to type in all caps, at least spell "speech" correctly.
2) People like Ani do indeed have Freedom of Speech, but that does not mean others should be deprived of their freedom of *thought*.
If someone wore a shirt proclaiming "You're a baby-killer if you had an abortion!", are you telling me that anyone who took offense to that should leave the US?
3) Ani DiFranco is certainly not stupid. By wearing the shirt, she's tackling a controversial issue head-on and part of that is being confrontational with people who disagree with her. Inc. readers are jarred by her fashion statement? Well, duh. That's half of her point (the other half being to rally those who support legalized abortion).
Maybe Ani just wanted to get everyone talking about her - just like everyone still is. I think it's all about the publicity.
If you don't like her shirt, then don't look at it. Everyone has their own sense of fashion and it's not necessarily agreeable to everyone else. The comment on her t-shirt might be crude, but that's in the opinion of the reader. When we get dressed in the morning, we can't be concerned about how people are going to react to what we're wearing, right?
Whether or not you agree that abortion is murder, you cannot argue that a human being is not alive today who would have been if Ms. DiFranco had not made the choice she made. To be proud of ending an innocent life is reprehensible. I don't question Ms. DiFranco's right to wear clothing that is offensive to millions of Americans. I do question her wisdom. I also question the wisdom of the magazine that chose to publish the photo, when they probably had others to choose from.
It will be interesting to see how "tolerant" those who disagree with this expression of opinion will be when they encourage others to be accepting of Ms. DiFranco's expression of opinion.
i think it's fine that she wore the shirt, even though i think it's absolutely horrible to murder your baby. it's just funny to me how much more outrage there would have been if she wore a shirt saying "abortion is babykilling"
Yes, any one can wear whatever they choose and that is freedom. From a woman who regretably had to have an abortion I know the pain and the regret that follows you for the rest of your life. Ani is probably crying out for help. Inc., on the other hand should have known better than publish this photo of her. Afterall this is not a political magazine.
Joe:
Ok, so you got me on that one :0)' SPEECH!!
Anyway
I am not saying that people do not have a freedom of thought, all I am trying to say is that the world is not going to come to an end just because someone wears a shirt that states a fact that someone else does not agree with. I am also trying to get the point across that everyone’s opinion is there own, and in the US we have the freedom to let everyone know what it is!! I am not in anyway saying people need to leave the US just because they do not like a shirt, what I am simply stating is that the fact that we have a freedom of speech, and if people don’t like what someone else has to say or wants to wear they have the right to not listen or not look. Plainly put if it is too much for one person to handle maybe they should go to one of those countries out there where everyone is molded to think and act the same as everyone else.
~Angela~
Tell you what, Ron... why not step up and get artificial wombs fully funded by the NIH? Then, whenever a woman is going to have an abortion, the undeveloped lump of tissue can be dumped into the womb, grown to term, and you can raise it. Hell, let's go one step further: humanity has reached the point where we could medically implant said fetus into you, with just a little research. Hop on board the baby-train, you want to judge whether or not a woman should be forced to bear the risks of pregnancy so bad. If you're sitting back on the sidelines, instead of making the real medical options that could make abortion a non-issue real, then what good are you?
Seriously, is it murder for me to ejaculate? If I'd just put my penis into a fertile woman, those sperm cells might well have grown into adulthood. How dare I deprive them of life?
Is it murder for a woman to slough off her uterine layer? After all, that egg cell that would have been nourished by that bloody discharge is now lost forever.
Oh, and this quaint cry for 'tolerance' while taking the opportunity to decry how reprehensible something is doesn't wash. If you can call Ani on her shirt, I can call you on your statement, and can be called on for mine. Stop whining and get on with the debate. I already know you don't support my rights, that's why I assert them.
Are you people for real? Last time I checked abortions were legal in this country!!! If you actually read the article instead of just looking at the pretty picture you whould see what an independent feminist she is DUH!! I loved the T shirt want one just like it!!
Lots of people DO wear NRA t-shirts, as well as t-shirts featuring sex and/or violence and/or a whole slew of other controversial things. Wearing a t-shirt that states, simply, "I had an abortion," draws attention to the fact that lots of regular people have had abortions and are grateful they were given a choice. It's not like she's wearing a full-fledged graphical reenactment of an unrealistically-developed, toddler-looking fetus being sucked out of her uterus. We already have the anti-choice fanatics for that.
The t-shirt isn't a statement of "pride" in the abortion itself; it's a statement of "pride" in having a choice over what does or doesn't happen to your body as a woman.
I commend Inc. from the bottom of my heart for featuring this photo.
this t-shirt is part of a campaign to take the shame out of having an abortion. its so that people can see that their neighbor and their sister and maybe even their favorite, successful musician has as well. i think that it is perfectly in line with the article which is about a principals which reflects your business and personal life. it is integratity, the basis of freedom of speech which she is showing. freedom of speech is freedom to say what you feel, or think, or want, genuinely. all the better when it pushes the boundaries of exception. there is no shared code of opinion between inc. readers that is for sure.
Why are people so easily threatened? Big deal, she was wearing an abortion shirt. Relax! That doesn't have any effect whatsoever on the realities or political debate surrounding abortion. It's just some singer wearing a shirt -- a notoriously outspoken singer, for that. It doesn't even say that abortion is good or bad. It says that she had one, which is a fact.
Why people get so upset over other people making a statement they don't agree with is beyond me. Why the urge to squash other opinions? Frankly, I'd much rather people be up front with what they believe so I know where they are coming from.
Ani Difranco has a right to wear that tee-shirt as part of her free speech, and as a woman, Christian, and political person, it's more important to me that she be able to do that than whether or not I agree with the fact that she had an abortion.
Hey if you really want something to talk about go and check out www.tshirthell.com They got some winners there!!! They definitely use their freedom of speech to the full extent!!
I'm a guy so I'm not going to really get into the abortion issue but I do think that a t-shirt is a t-shirt. I have seen more offensive t-shirts than what she was wearing. As for those who would judge and is an extremist christian it states in the bible thou shall not judge. When you judge than your essentially saying that you are as perfect as god and never sinned. In this country everyone has the right to express there opinion. In China you have no right to express you opionion if you did than you could be imprisoned for life. If your female than your treated like a slave and you are only aloud 1 child any more and they have to be aborted. See the difference between here and another country?
Finally, a voice or two of reason from the male gender. Matt, excellent points and Marshall, exactly. As a female, I am truly tired of the male gender telling women what they should and should not do with their bodies. As for the issue of abortion, walk a mile in someone's shoes before you judge them. Currently (which is another issue) we do have the right of abortion, whether it is right or wrong depends on what side of the fence you sit. I'd rather we had the choice than not (as in other countries). And last of all, a t-shirt is a t-shirt and I have seen far worse.
I wouldn't go to t-shirt hell because I don't want to see anything they have to say. I also don't want to see anything about abortions in Inc. magazine. I get Inc. Magazine for business information. I couldn't just "turn the channel" because I had already seen it.
Now, since this has become an abortion forum, I will just say that you shouldn't kid yourself with the "I just want the choice." That is what we call a copout for someone that doesn't want to be bothered. It also isn't just egg and sperm. If it's just egg and sperm there is nothing to abort.
I had an abortion 21 years ago and it didn't strike me until a few years ago and it struck hard. I enjoy my other two kids so much and I would give anything to have had someone explain to me that an abortion shouldn't be a "choice". I was unfortunately influenced by people like Ani but the regret is my own.
Answer these following questions. Is a tree not ment to grow? Is a baby not meant to be born? Is a man not ment to be with a woman? Try to convince me that nature meant it to be the other way around??? Your just shooting yourself in the foot when you say abortions okay. Your slipping out of realty of what is "meant" to be. Abortion is not meant to be. Therefore, cease from making excuses for it. Your wrong.
DeeDee,
When you abort your next baby give it to me and I will hang from my shirt and have it say. "DeeDee aborted this baby". What would you think of that.
so if I have a miscarriage, now I am a murderer too in addition to being a grieving woman? Oh, not the same because one is natural and the other is induced...but it's still, in the end, the same conglomeration of cells and this is a straw man argument as much as the one voiced by Mr. Ben Finklea.
Go Ani.
Go choice.
Keep your beliefs out of my womb!
Don't you love the Free Speach nonsense. Shoot I got speech wrong joey or is it joe
How about this winner...sigh
"Ben: do you see how the first and last sentences of your comment negate each other logically?"
People she wears it because it gets a reaction - she doesn't see the line between tasteful and distasteful
You guys are a riot
Just think of it like this how many babies are wasted when a guy masturbates or has oral sex and ect...yeah I understand its not technically a baby cause there is not and egg involved, but it is the same principal, technically the poor little sperms life ends as soon as they hit the air...I mean honestly do people flip out about that, no. I mean seriously this discussion could go on for years and it has...keep in mind that legal abortions can only happen up until the point where a fetus can survive outside of the body. Truthfully if an abortion does not affect you personally, why worry about what everyone else is doing, mind your own business. I mean until I see every anti abortion person in the world running out to adopt a life that was put up for adoption instead of aborted; I don’t want to hear it.
When I was about 13 I used to wear tshirts like that to annoy people and get attention. I guess Ani has just never grown out of that phase. Pretty pathetic actually.
If you want an offensive t-shirt, how about the "I'm with Stupid" variety? Ani's shirt is part of a campaign to portray everyday women who have had abortions as just that, everyday women. Some friends and I were discussing the shirt the other day; one informed us she'd had an abortion, which surprised us all. She is a successful business woman, a perfect example of the type of person Inc. and the shirt represent. Nobody is saying abortion is easy, or right or wrong. All that is being said that it is a choice some women have to make. If you have such a terrible problem with that, perhaps you should be with the person wearing the I'm with Stupid shirt.
She got her much needed attention/reaction - and Inc played right into it. Pretty sad, as I thought they would be smarter than that.
Aaron, please learn how to spell and punctuate before trying to make a point. Otherwise you just look really, really ignorant and nobody's gonna take you seriously... unless you feel that humankind wasn't "ment" to be literate?
90 years ago, women were thrown into jail for pursuing the right to vote. Everybody, including the president at the time, thought they were insane. Unbelievable by anyone's standards, no?
In spite of all the faith-based right-wing christian-coalition mystical hullabaloo that continues to cloud an issue that's purely scientific, medical, and logical in nature, I only hope that, similarly, 90 years from now, we'll look back and laugh at all the flighty zealots now who have any question in their minds about whether abortion should be legal.
Bess
Scientifically, life begins at conception. All that we are is contained in the fertilized egg.
Medically, abortion has become nothing more than a money making, unecessary procedure.
Logically, the decision should have been made not to potentially fertilize the egg, with an act of selfish passion.
Let's hope in 90 years from now, abortion is looked back upon in the same horror as the Holocaust is today.
Business and fashion do mix -- and perhaps politics as well. It's up to the editors of the magazine on whether or not they should print and ad or even publish an op-ed piece.
Obviously, the t-shirt was more than a fashion statement which would have promoted her record label - that's mixing business and fashion. But it became an ad for a social message.
Here's the rub: would the editors be willing to publish a similar photo for someone in the magazine for the right reasons if they had a shirt with the opposite message? If so, then that's tantamount to equal time.
On the other hand, even if the answer is no, people have to find ways to get their message out. For example, key pro-life supporters will have to "market" their ideas in a clever, confident way.
Okay. I understand this is not a clearly defined answer. But ultimately, editors make an editorial choice. And remember that print has staying power.
Although I'm against abortion in a very deep and moral way, I also understand that it's not my place to choose for another. Abortions will happen...if not legally, then illegally by unscrupulous and under trained "doctors".
In our society which values pluralism, we allow the citizens to share moronic (imho) ideals and beliefs, as long as you don't harm anyone. The problem with this issue is that some people feel that this practice is harming another human being...and instead of you jumping down their throat for being a "right-wing christian-coalition mystical hullabaloo"...maybe you aren't giving them the same respect for your opinion as they gave yours. Most of the people that feel this way are compassionate people...and you should respect their views and understand why they feel the way they do.
Whether your pro-abortion or anti-abortion, to celebrate the killing of life is a horrific display of your being human (Ncnana). I can understand if circumstances made you choose a certain path...but to make it seem a trivial and positive solution to the problem of not making the proper choices (birth control or abstinence) ahead of time seems like a short sighted thinking.
What really is disturbing is the recent decision of the supreme court to allow third trimester abortions. It was not enough to allow abortions for the first six months? I think that many would agree that a third trimester fetus could live with modern medicine. And instead of compromise (which existed)...the left-wing needed to promote their ideals 100% over the other side. It’s a sad day for America and the millions of people that disagree with your views, but respect your right to have an abortion for the good of society. Way to shove it in our face!
Was it a mistake to put this in a magazine dedicated to business...probably...but it’s not going to make me cancel my subscription. Forcing an editor to painstakingly comb through pictures, just in case it might be a touchy subject, isn’t what I want them focused on. It’s good business writing.
And Bess, instead of criticizing another’s punctuation and spelling...maybe you should realize how arrogant you are portraying yourself. Unless we’re talking to computers which can’t distinguish “cant” with “can’t”...you should be able to comprehend the message as a thinking human...and scrutinize the points, not the grammar.
John
? = ' or "
Even an atheistic, ethics-only, examination of artificial birth control reveals their mortal danger: Consider the fact that all chemical and most mechanical contraceptives shrivel the womb, such that breakthrough pregnancies (which occur in about 2% of cycles for sexually active women using contraceptives) cannot implant. Consider also the obvious fact that the non-accidental destruction of a human just after birth is murder. What of the day before birth? The ethicist cannot deny that it remains so. Two days prior? The same conclusion is inescapable, for maturation is gradual. Contemplation of the question in iterations, counting back day-by-day to conception, reveals that there is no moment when the life can be identified to be other than human; it can only be identified as a human exhibiting a continuum of maturation. Some will claim that the point when it cannot survive outside the womb is the moment when it is not human. But remember, the issue is whether it is human, not whether it can survive without the help of the mother’s body. (Many adults cannot survive without various forms of help, from kidney machines to being fed by nurses. Does the fact make them not human?) Therefore, if the examiner cannot determine a moment when the flesh becomes human, he cannot find the moment when its destruction is not murder.
Corrected version:
Debates of abortion procedures are usually incomplete, ignoring the unseen abortions that are induced by artificial birth control methods. Even an atheistic, ethics-only, examination of these methods reveals their mortal danger: Consider the fact that all chemical and most mechanical contraceptives shrivel the womb, such that breakthrough pregnancies (which occur in about 2% of cycles for sexually active women using contraceptives) cannot implant. Consider also the obvious fact that the non-accidental destruction of a human just after birth is murder. What of the day before birth? The ethicist cannot deny that it remains so. Two days prior? The same conclusion is inescapable, for maturation is gradual. Contemplation of the question in iterations, counting back day-by-day to conception, reveals that there is no moment when the life can be identified to be other than human; it can only be identified as a human exhibiting a continuum of maturation. Some will claim that the point when it cannot survive outside the womb is the moment when it is not human. But remember, the issue is whether it is human, not whether it can survive without the help of the mother’s body. (Many adults cannot survive without various forms of help, from kidney machines to being fed by nurses. Does the fact make them not human?) Therefore, if the examiner cannot determine a moment when the flesh becomes human, he cannot find the moment when its destruction is not murder.
I haven't heard of any evidence to support the claims that condoms or the pill damage the womb. Abortions however, do damage the uterus.
I personally believe it's wrong to destroy any life that has a natural chance to survive. You can debate the exact moment all you want...look into your heart and you'll find the answer for yourself.
When I saw the shirt I thought...yeah typical hippy. Her business will only go so far as the market for hippies buying hippy stuff is pretty small. Unless of course Sean Puffy Combs changes his name again from P. Diddy (after Puff Daddy) to Poof Hippy or something. And Madonna brings her bunch of Kabbalistic sex crazed half hippies to join the stoned black guys by changing her name again from Ester to Anita Pot or Anita Cone or something.
What I want to know is did this Ani DiFranco actually have an abortion or is she just trying to show she's pro-choice. If it is either all I know for sure is that is damaging to her brand as I'd like to think hippies are a li'l more down to earth and natural and not only consider abortion murder but the leading cause of breast and the rest of female genitalia cancer. Ani should wait 'til she's a li'l 'more famous' like Madonna or P. Diddy and talk politics. Though it will make some fans turn to hate her atleast people will be listening when she speaks out as she has star power. Whereas now she's being a put direct on a really sensetive issue too early in her career. Perhaps she should protest about something a li'l more important such as White House pResident Dubya oil hungry foreign policy or weapons proliferation. Even something as simple as Saving Oldgrowth Forest would atleast serve this hippy better.
Unless of course most hippies are just as ignorant to the pro-choice (read pro-baby slaughter and trust me that's an understatement...a relative of mine is a NICU nurse (Neo-natal Intensive Care Unit Nurse) and has told me horrors stories of screaming 6 or 8 month old babies being stabbed in the back of the neck with their head still in the womb (well I mean vagina well there you go I said it) as it's legal to do it that way. It's only illegal if the babies head actually comes out (hypocrisy at it's maximum huh). The baby is then left bleeding half way to death just before the doctor can get into the neck and cut and or crush it. Ignorance sure is bliss. The horror stories are of course hard to believe as who would want to believe that this is how most abortions are done these days.
It's no wonder Siemens and General Electric and Roche and big-pharma the like that sell chemotherapy products and X-Ray machines for millions of dollars to be used on cancer paitents give their pocket change to 'Find the Cure' walks and charities as well as Pro-Choice lobbying groups.
More cancer = more machines sold = greater shareholder value from greater profits.
Simple. Profits...at what cost?
Think about it friends.
I agree with Angela "I mean until I see every anti abortion person in the world running out to adopt a life that was put up for adoption instead of aborted; I don’t want to hear it."
I did a little searching on the subject, and it does not seem that some of today's most prominent 'pro-lifers', such as Bush and Ashcroft, have adopted or fostered children.
I DID discover that there are an estimated 250,000 deadbeat dads incarcerated in US prisons
According to the department of health and human services, there were 129 thousand children on the waiting list to be adopted, their average wait time 44 months
Meanwhile, the US census 2000 notes
a. That the US has one of the highest rates of teenage childbearing in the more developed world (45.8 per thousand women) and that half of this number is of girls aged 15-17
b. an 18% increase since 1990 of children living in 'severely distressed neighborhoods' (now 5.6 million children)
Abortion right or wrong itself is clearly an intractable issue. Criminalising it will only force women to backstreet abortionists, and despite Adam's sensationalist ranting, there is no credible evidence that abortion causes breast cancer, but a botched abortion with a rusty coathanger IS a surefire cause of death and suffering.
As is sniping- since 1990 there have been ten killings and at least 17 attempted killings by pro-lifers of doctors who perform abortions
What makes more sense is to look at ways to give women more and better choices.
1. Improved welfare support for single mothers
2. Free condoms available everywhere
3. Less hypocritical rhetoric and more action on fostering and adoption
4. More medical research - if doctors can replace rescued ovarian tissue in an ex-cancer patient and see her naturally conceive (see news.bbc.co.uk today's front page), can we be far away from foetal transplants?
THen maybe oneday, as Matt said to Ron, the unwanted foetus could be implanted into its father, I mean, how could he refuse. It would be murder!
If abortion is murder then why are miscarriages not considered natural deaths? Why don't they have death certificates? Where are their graves? Despite all we say, society as a whole, does not truly believe these fetuses are "people" until a specific (post-legal-abortion) gestation. If you are anti-abortion then campaign for the rights of all "unborn" children including the one that die naturally.
I think what she did is brave. A woman has a choice, and that choice is never easy. It takes a lot of soul searching and access to the truth to make an informed and very difficult choice. To be open about it is even harder. I applaude Ani, and our right to choose.
If men were the ones that had the babies, abortion would be legal everywhere.
As someone who also has had an abortion (and I'm also a mother), I would like to say that I applaud Ani for wearing a t-shirt stating how she feels, or even if just the facts. Why should women who have abortions be shameful and remorseful? It's our choice! It's our bodies. There is NOTHING wrong with having an abortion, although it's NEVER a plesant experience for ANY woman. I'm sure she's using her status as a wonderful artist and muscian to state the truth...she had one. Big deal. You should be more upset about Britney Spear's "MILF in Training" - she's using children as a reason for people to want to have sex with her, lol. Get real people, move on already.
I love the irony from any guy that comes on here and preaches the anti-choice message. You'll NEVER have to face the decision yourself so why don't you just shut up for a few minutes and let the women speak? Let us discuss what to do with our bodies amongst ourselves for once.
Anyhow, to answer a question that appeared a few posts back: yes, Ani has had an abortion. She has sung about it in at least 2 of her (incredible) songs. She is also a mother. I wouldn't really call her a hippy. An activist? Yes. A feminist? A fantastic one! But a hippy? I'm not convinced. But hey, if you think a hippy is anyone that doesn't drink double Americanos and shop at the gap, than maybe she is.
The shirt WAS worn to get attention. But not for herself. Some people are dense. If you're that opinionated on the matter, do some research. The shirts are produced to promote discussion and awareness about abortion. The idea is that those of us that have faced such a difficult and often isolating decision should no longer have to feel ashamed about it. We shouldn't have to be afraid. And hopefully open discussion (such as what is happening here) will break down walls so that the fear won't persist.
As for all this "life begins at conception" nonsense... it's quite amusing. Typical propaganda sold to the under-educated. Go buy a biology textbook. Look up what a cell is. Honestly, if you have ever swatted a fly or eatten a hamburger you are more of a murdering than a woman that has an abortion in the first trimester. And most places have laws regulating how far along an abortion can be performed. I believe it's 8-12 weeks typically, unless there is a serious medical condition.
I applaud Ani. And to those of you who don't like it: tough. There are enough of us women that truly believe in our own rights around willing to wear such t-shirts, willing to go toe-to-toe that even if tragedies like South Dakota happen we will NEVER be silent.
And by posting your stance one way or another you are doing EXACTLY what Ms. Difranco intended with that shirt. You're participating in a candid discussion about abortion.
I am a student and was in class the other day, and there was a centipede crawling on the floor. Someone said to kill it, but the rest of the class was appalled and made her feel like a monster for suggesting that. Yet, I know some of these same people would be all for the right to kill a developing human being through abortion. Even if you don't think an embryo or fetus is a full-fledged person, it is still a lot more developed and, I would think, valuable than a bug.
But that's just me.
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now.. back on topic hehe
I cant say that fully agree with what you wrote... care to explain more?
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