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May 13, 2005
The Apprentice
The Apprentice - Week 15
Posted by Nadine Heintz at 12:28 PM
Tana used to be my favorite. I don't know what I was thinking! Her biggest problem is her ego. I can't believe she let Governor Pataki wait for her out in the hall. Doesn't she knows that Pataki's kind of busy? She treated her team with even less respect. She was so condescending and nasty. Sure, she didn't have the best team ever, but they seemed to be trying their best. The one big mistake--and it was huge--was Kristen's program, which was filled with information on how to "handle" the athletes. She's either a complete idiot or she was trying to sabotage Tana.
I wouldn't really blame Kristen if she was trying to ruin Tana's chances. Tana inspired zero loyalty. I was pretty shocked when she made a fist and told one of the event staffers that she wanted to punch someone. Then she went around telling people she was the next apprentice. She was out of control!
Kendra, on the other hand, did a great job. She wasn't perfect--that initial meeting with the sponsors was a potential disaster, and she did snipe at Brian a couple of times. But, as some people predicted last week, she figured out a way to make Sony happy, and the whole event was great. For the most part, she was a great leader. This is the first time she's shown that she can rally a group around her. It was really inspiring. I admit that I got a little misty-eyed during the group hug at the end!
The Tana v. Kendra match-up emphasized the importance of being a firm, yet benevolent leader. Last night's episode reminded me of a nature show I watched on PBS last week. The show was about a group of gorillas that chose a different leader every couple of weeks. At first, they had a nice leader who treated them well, but then a nasty dictator came along. After two weeks, the gorillas got rid of him and elected the nice guy again. Last night, Tana was the mean gorilla, and it's going to cost her the apprenticeship. The look on her face when her team walked into the boardroom at the end said it all. I guess we'll find out next week!
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First of all, I totally thought that last night was the finale of the Apprentice. Are they really going to drag this out for another hour? I lost all respect for Tana. She is a horrible manager, and uses her "nice mom" facade to mask her condescending and snotty attitude. If Kendra doesn't win, something is rigged. She really proved herself last night (one of the sponsors even said that they would hire her) and hope she wins next week.
There is NO WAY that those tasks were equal in scope. Just none. Tana was a horrible, horrible manager but she had twice as much to contend with than Kendra. And I'm tired of hearing "but competancy just doesn't make good TV." Baloney. She was handed the easier task to ensure a win. The most stressful thing involved appeared to be cleanign the basement. Tana, on the other hand, had brochures, missing flags, political figures, celebrity athletes and an incompetant. staff. kendra? Had Fabulous.
What a crock. Congrats Kendra. You "won." Too bad the viewing public lost 16-18 hours of their life getting invested in this sham.
We would love to have Kendra's job and the crew that pulled it off for her. Michael gets my thumbs up. The Sony room looked marvelous!
Pataki and Aide, I can't say enough about those petulent eliteists. What were they expecting, a champagne filled side room for the rich and famous to dwell with each other? Get out of the limo bro and start shaking hands, meet the kids and the athletes. The show had to go on which was more important then they were. And Tana got the show on.
If one of the kids had the U.S. flag, was Pataki going to take it out of the kids hand, so he could come in with it? Probably.
Tana was being pulled in too many different directions and without much help. Kristen is beyond stupid. Enough said there.
Kendra had a Michael, what did Tana have? Sure, she didn't handle it well, but the show got on. No easy task.
Tana will do well with all the endorsements and speaking tours coming up for her. I hope she capitalizes on it. And Kendra will now go into corporate seclusion, and we'll all be wondering whatever happened to her?
I agree. I was a Tana fan until last night. I lost all respect for her when I saw how cocky and disrespectful she was towards her team. Kendra made a complete turnaround and based on how each one performed in the most important task yet, Kendra should come out on top.
I think this race has been over for several weeks and last night only reinforced that.
Tana's phony persona becomes more easy to see all the time, while Kendra showed again that she is easily at the head of this class of candidates.
I would agree that Tana had a more difficult task and the more troublesome support team, but she lost this on her own. There was so much to do that firing her teammates was not really an option. Even if you don't like your employees much, calling them the three stooges and sniping about them to anyone who will listen is NOT the way to bring out their best for you. Kendra proved that leadership starts at the top. Tana proved the same thing, but in a negative manner.
I think Trump, George and Carolyn had to make a good comment or two about Tana, just to preserve the slightest smidge of drama, but there's not really any reason to drag this out for another hour.
It's over. Kendra is The Apprentice. If they find some twisted way to pick Tana, all credibility will be lost. There will be no point in bothering with another season.
I agree that Tana's task was probably more challenging but she sealed her fate by predetermining that her teammates were stooges and wouldn't work for her. Whether she expressed that to them out loud or not they certainly would have picked up the vibes so what motivation to they have to do ANYTHING right? I think the program Kristen put together was deliberate sabatoge. No one is so stupid to think that kind of copy belongs in a program. I was impressed with Kendra. She's young, she could have let some of the little problems that came in to play derail her and she didn't. She gave her teammates respect and they payed her back by performing at a decent level. Maybe the task wasn't as difficult but she started with unhappy sponsors and turned that around. She made those sponsors feel that she was working in their best interest. Tana neglected to create that impression in her clients. She did not manage expectations well at all.
In my opinion Kendra is a lock. Tana really did not paint a pretty picture of herself.
It is so easy for us to sit back and be a Monday quarterback, but I can't agree with the Kendra sentiments. Yes, she won this. No doubt, but I think Tana was a patsy. Trump was never going to hire a H.S. graduate. They made sure of that.
Kendra had it too easy, her task didn't begin till the evening, plenty of smart help and not much to do.
No, Tana didn't have to make those comments about her assistants, I agree. But show me a brochure like Kristen put together and I'd want to go for neck. She couldn't be everywhere, they showed us how many times someone was at her for something? I lost count. Pataki's Aide needed her approval to bring the Gov out of his limo? Oh, enough!
Kendra was set up to win. Did I see her sipping champagne at her task? All the time in the world to enjoy the moment and with a top notch crew. Sure winner.
I think the Tana/Kendra thing is a no-brainer now, especially after last night. I do have a question that I'd be interested in hearing comments on:
It seems to me that the easiest way to get raked over the coals in the boardroom is to not focus on marketing. Other than basic leadership and management skills, it's the marketing that makes or breaks a lot of these candidates over the course of the show. But when you look at the final tasks for all three seasons, marketing is mostly a non-issue. Also, if you look at types of jobs the winners end up doing, it seems they don't have a whole lot to do with marketing. You can be a great leader and/or manager and a terrible marketer, but if your job doesn't require marketing, it doens't really matter. So why is there such a big emphasis put on marketing for the whole show when in the end it's pretty much a non-issue?
Just curious what your takes are on this.
Marketing is important because the show is looking for a well rounded person, one who can flip burgers, make pizza's and properly market them.
Then it moves on to people skills, leading the inmates, correcting spelling, and keeping the expletives down to a bare minimum all the while keeping the fist fights to just black eyes, no broken teeth. Don't lose any cash or credit cards along the way cause it may be needed to bail someone out. They're just looking for someone well rounded in the criminal world.
Ryan, I don't agree that marketing was a non-issue, at least last night.
It was still about marketing, although in this case, the product was more themselves and their leadership abilities than something made by Home Depot or Pontiac.
I'm still baffled that some think Kendra had an easier task.
Is it that difficult to get people excited about the Olympics, with help from Bruce Jenner, the governor, Michael Phelps, several other world-class athletes, some perky school kids, etc.
Kendra, on the other hand, had to get people to care about a contrived video game promo/contest, with the help of whom? A dime a dozen rapper?
Who was it that said?"big people show their bigness by the way they treat little people". Too bad Tana didn't know of that quote. Last night her staff was te Rodney Dangerfield of all Apprentices combined. We discovered last night that Tana actually had 3 years of college, so it really was not that much difference between book and street smarts. It should have been street smarts that showed her how to "Win friends and Influence people". Then refusing to be seen walking out with her staff at the end. What kind of stupidity was that. Executives love to be seen doing that, that's why you see plenty of them eating in the employee cafteria, with the common folk. Tana, go back to Iowa and take a 12 week course of "Human Relations". You were embarrassing to watch last night: up till then I was rooting for you.
Let me see, putting tables in a room with some ad material for the walls or running an olympic event with all the games having to go off and a petulent Governor in attendence. Hmmm which one would I want to do? I'll have to get back to you about that one.
Marketing was in place for both those events. Think they would have an olympic event go off without touting it for weeks, or the other event?
They didn't have to do any marketing. Kendra just had to show up and move those tables around.
I know, I know Kendra did it so well. Well Duh.
I TOTALLY agre with Fran. I expected ladt night to be the finale. Oh well, they will bring Regis again. Ugh! To sum it all up, there is no question who ought to be the nexr apprentice. If for some twist they pick Tana, the Donald can kiss my big foot with which I will vote... Never to turn on the show again...
I am wondering if all this is not theatre. Can someone be as stupid as Tana to make remarks like those on camera?
We'll see.
Tana really blew it! Kendra went the extra mile when she was project manager for the new automobile brochure. She worked alone all night to get the job done, while Tana and Craig went back to the suite to sleep. She deserves to become Donald Trump's new apprentice. Kendra is not afraid of hard work. In the final task of working with previous candidates, she treated them with respect, even though she knew what their weaknesses were, and pulled everyone together to get the job done. She brought out the best in them. She recoved from an early mistake when she was late for a meeting by gaing the confidence of the sponsors. They were working with a less than idea situation with a major sponsor threatening to pull out of the tournment. At the end of the final task, Kendra proved she is a class act by thanking them for their efforts on her behalf to become the next apprentice. On the other hand, Tana from the beginning of her task, NYC2012, wanted to get rid of certain previous candidates. She could not get beyond the fact she did not have her personal favorites, and she did not closely monitor them. She is not leadership quality. She made poor decisions in her handling of the VIPS. As a result, she made serious errors, as did her employees. Tana does not deserve to be Donald Trump's new apprentice, while Kendra played it smart.
For those who say that Kendra's task was easier - yahoo's apprentice website has a complete description of each task: http://apprentice.tv.yahoo.com/03/theshow/tasks/episode16.html -- click on Task Dossier. For example we didn't see the pre-event VIP reception that Kendra had to organize; all proceeds of the tournament had to go to charities, and in addition to sponsors Kendra had to handle all charity relationship. Kendra made it seem easy and she didn't have many problems, so there were not much 'interesting' stuff to show us; not when they had so many blunders on Tana's part to entertain us with. They only have one hour show and they want to show us every mistake each candidate made as well as final result.
As far as timing goes, both tasks were supposed to be completed at around the same time, Kendra's at 8pm and Tana's at 7pm - according to the link above. Since Kendra's event was supposed to be completed (not started) at 8pm, it also took place during the day.
As far as Kendra's having an easier group -- neither Danny nor Erin nor Michael had a great record. She motivated them to do their best whereas Tana did just the opposite. Do you really think Michael would be very motivated to work for some one who referred to him as 'stooge'?
I'm glad there is something showing how hard Kendra worked ... I can't believe people here can imply one task is 'easy' and another is 'hard'. The task of good manager is to MAKE a task look easy. The reason Tana had so many people bugging her was because she was so unprepared. She should have greeted the govenor at the limo, she should have known when he was coming. The brochures were a mess because she left it all to Kristen without any oversight, whos fault is that? A little pre-thought does wonders at making the execution look easy.
I used to be for Tana, but last week when she went on her crusade for the stupid buttons made me realize that Kendra has over and above been better and smarted. Good luck Kendra!!
The main point for me is not who won the task, or which task was more difficult. It was the change in Tana's personality that threw me off. I used to like Tana a lot with her nice personality. After last night episode, I can see how much she changed, or maybe that was the real Tana that we didn't know. I think I would have still supported Tana if she had lost the task but maintained a nice person, but ... not anymore. You go Kendra. Wow, this Kendra impressed me more and more after each episode. I didn't notice her before, but now each time she was a PM, her creativity really shines, and that can't be taught or learnt.
It is pity that Craig was not around to compete against Kendra. They both are brilliant, but kept low profile.
The fact that "the big guys" eliminated Craig and ranked Tana equal to Kendra, like most of viewers, proves that they are regular morons, no surprize their companies do not prtform soo great.
The best Tana Moment occurred when we saw her actually look both ways before exiting the building... That was classic!! I wonder what the "little people" who work for her back home think of her now.
In reference to the intineraries:
Come on, do you REALLY think NBC would post itineraries that were drastically different in scope? Of course not. They're going to make them look as even as possible so no one can cry foul. Kendra showed up, moved some stuff around, magically had her team kiss and make up and had everything go off without a hitch. Please. If she was so amazing, why did they show so little of her ability? I mean, isn't this a show where we're suppoosed to see how brilliant these people are? And the "competancy is boring" argument doesn't cut it. So far, every season, people have been crying foul as to the last minute gaffes (the missing sign, the speaker pulling out last minute, Tony Bennet appearing otu fo thin air, Jessica Simpson going missing.) So you're telling me this season there's...NOTHING? People refuse to admit that it's a possibility Kendra's task was grossly less involved than Tana's because everyone wants to believe that Kendra was perfect. Because that allows them to hate Tana even more. It's such a crock. They both are mid-level, average managers. Neither are "The Total Package."
Both of them had a lot of help. There's no way that the NY Olympic Committee would leave the organization of an event like that to an Apprentice parachuted in at the last minute. Someone had already locked in the venue, booked the athletes, invited Pataki, etc.
The same goes with the Playstation event as well.
As far as I can tell, a set of tasks was carved out or set aside for them, but they were both jumping on trains that were already moving.
Secondly, our perceptions are going to be colored by the editing. Granted Tana gave the producers a lot to work with, but she must have done something right because she was really happy at the end of the task. Still, I wonder how she's going to face some of those people or put up with all of the radio show questions from now on. It's terrible for her that the fakeness of her personality was exposed so publicly.
As for Kendra, I think she played the game very well. She waited for her opportunities, and when they came along she seized them, but she didn't lose her head. At least on TV, the stark contrast between the two of them really came through. I'd hire Kendra in a heartbeat. Of all of the other apprentice candidates, there were only 1 or 2 others that I would have looked at. Everyone else was on that show for their personality or looks or dramatic/confrontational potential.
Greeted the Gov. at his limo? She had an olympic event(s)to get on. The most important words to be spoken was "let the games begin", and that had to happen on time!
Tana did give them all the words to use against herself, no doubt. They never showed anything good and there must have been some good happening in her event, nor did they show us anything bad about Kendra's event.
Who did the best job? The editors. They want you all to think what your thinking about the finalists.
Listen to Craig, he was the guest at thefishbowl.com radio show. When he discusses what actually happened during the brochure episode your eyes will be opened to the real reality of this show. He defies NBC to show the entire footage of that task.
Tana gave the editors all they could hope for..a win for Kendra.
I did listen to that show. Thanks for the heads up. Now I know the brochure was basically finished before Tana and Craig went to bed.
Craig certainly sounds more articulate on the radio show then I expected to hear. More illusion from Burnett? He can't admit to his condensending ways though. All the ladies have complained about it during prior radio shows.
I never thought for a moment that Trump would ever hire someone with only a H.S. diploma, so the editors may have been focusing more positively for a college grad. Kendra has a much better resume' for all that's worth. And it is worth a lot.
I always thought that that brochure was completed when Tana and Craig went to bed. There's just such vitrol for anyone who dared defy Kendra that people assumed Craig was lying. I didn't need to hear Craig tell us it was completed, that's exactly what my gut told me when I saw that episode. It just pisses me off that the editor's think we're so stupid that we don't see half of these things.
Kendra is a martyr. Tana is a phony. They both had to have so much creative editing because they knew they'd never compare to previous winners.
Tana is not a fake. Come on be nice. She was totally dumbfounded by whom they chose to assist her and she couldn't get past it.
Was that the true Tana finally showing up? Very doubtful. Walk a mile in her shoes and we'll all judge you.
The editors took every less-then-nice word she uttered and played it to the hilt. They may have even been asking her what she was thinking at that moment. She had no friends in the editing dept. Nor did she have anyone to hand over some of the duties. It turned out that she couldn't trust anyone to do their job as Kendra had.
See it for what really happened to the girl, walk that mile with her, then come back to tell us which is the real Tana. She is a nice person in real life, I'm sure.
I can't believe some people are still defending Tana/trashing Kendra. I bet if you switched tasks and teams, the results would still be the same. Kendra would have delegated the routine tasks and been on the ball with the items that connect the dots - timeline, brochure, VIP mgmt, etc. Tana would not trust her team, no vision, probably would have blamed her teammate for bad placement of the Playstation section etc.
Kendra reaffirmed all her success. Tana was out of her league. Too bad for Craig that he didn't prepare better in the previous episode because it would have been a better final match.
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I hope the final "live" episode does not devolve into an embarassing BASH TANA fest, the way that last year's finale was a BASH Jennifer-she-is-the-Devil fest last year's show ended up becoming.
While I agree that given what the editors chose to show us, Kendra was the clear winner, it does not reflect well on Trump or NBC to humiliate Tana.
btw, anyone heard anything about how last year's winner Kelly is doing? After Rancic won the first Apprenticeship, the guy was making press releases about every little thing he did.
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And it amazes me how people can shovel so much credit Kednra's way when we never saw what she did on this task. She went from being a lousy manager who didn't know how to communicate without pouting and whining to UberApprentice? Give me a break. If we've learned anything on this show it's that half of what we see is what the editors want us to see and not what actually IS.
While I think that Kendra would be a better apprentice due to her focus on the tasks that she was assigned and worked on, I think you must consider that editing plays a part in everybody's perception of both candidates. We only seemed to see Tana whine and complain about her team and seem indifferent to Governor Pataki's schedule. This does not necessarily mean that Tana failed miserably. Although I feel that Kendra would be a stronger Apprentice, I think that what we did not see is as important as what we did see. This "all-bad candidate, all-good-candidate" contrast may not be as obvious as the producers would have you believe.
Yeah dude, Tana's task was way harder dude.
Did you ever think they took away the flag to make it more difficult for her?
That just doesn't make sense.
Tana likes to stab ya in the back though, but that's just how you play the game.
Did Chris get out of jail yet?
It's not like Burnett to show us the ending (who won it) a week before the final show. They went out of their way to show us that Kendra won this thing. That's not really like them to do that.
Anyone here, besides me, expecting a surprise? Tana, sure she made comments about her crew,(deservedly) but how did her project go? She certainly thought she won this for some reason.
They show us Kendra skating through, her bud's go all out for her, Danny had the charity idea and the emcee, Michael has the room lookin good, and it's all roses. It all looks too pat, too easy to pick Kendra. Think about it, Burnett likes his cliff-hangers.
...or Burnett wanted to avoid the mess from last season and make it so the winner is obvious and Trump knows exactly who he'll pick so he can do it in the final boardroom and his choice is justified.
They are cutting the live finale down to probably 30 minutes. First 20 minutes would be the boardroom with the employees, then the live boardroom with Tanan adn Kendra, then the announcement. Yawn. And from the bitterness of this year's cast as well as the suspect editing, I don't think they want to risk ANYONE coming back and saying things like, "That brochure was done before we went to bed" or "Mr. Trump I think you're threatened by strong women." Too much room for a real bashing that the execs will want to avoid.
I can remember all the comments about Tana & Craig going to bed, leaving poor Kendra, Tana stealing her show with the pontiac people...From what I heard all 3 worked hard on it. Kendra got the idea from an Astin Martin brochure she got in the mail just before leaving for the Trump show.
That was when they first wanted us to change our minds about Tana and jump over to kendra. It worked too. Good editing.
I disagree that the whole thing was a setup. Give Tana an super easy task that and she still would have spit on her team and made them hate her. Ever work with a manager everyone hates?
Sure, when everything is perfect Tana performed well, but give her a *realistic* team and she doesn't even try. Does Trump always deal with superstars? His book and appearances always detail him working with incompetant contractors and people not doing a quality job. How is Tana gonna handle someone not doing a good job if she doesn't even try to handle her team.
I thought Tana got along with Chris, who everyone on the show said had alot of talent. She just sidelined him, and NEVER go against your own team in front of the client. Those are shortfalls that Tana would have shown running a hotdog stand. I think Tana was given the "bad team" because she had "bad management". Kendra had a team tough to manage also.
Perhaps Kristen really did do that bad of a job on the brochure because she was so busy trying to control everyone else, but if so Tana should have stepped in and separated the "kids" instead of mismanaging by doing nothing. It's all pretty standard team dynamics in my book, and she didn't handle it at all. Imagine a Trump building managed by Tana - "Those contractors are the stooges, I can't be bothered to work with them"
So why is the new Trump tower look like the leaning tower of Pisa, Tana? Tana does very well when everything is going well and she has excellent people to manage, but when the going gets tough, she doesn't have it to deal with problems and adversity. Kendra got sidelined with Craig all the time, and finally dumped that weight so she could really shine.
I bet Tana was sitting at home watching the last episode with her head in her hands.
Also, I see lots of comments about how the video game competition was "easy". It's just a bunch of geeks playing games right. The video game industry is a hard core highly competitive business who's life rests on the launch of one good game. Halo 2 put tons of cash into Microsoft's pockets, while ERTS and ATVI languished. Point being, the video game challenge was very difficult also, if the promotion of the new Fight Night did not go well, that is a major money loss. I believe the Playstation rep would have pulled their sponsorship if they weren't happy, and that is a big deal. That woman appeared to take her job very seriously, more so than a quick TV appearance.
It isn't just a couple geeks with joysticks, folks. But yeah, finding a US Flag for someone, now that is rocket science. "I assumed" is never a statement to make as a manager.
I'm not sure I believe that the brochure was practically finished when Craig and Tana went to bed. I recall Tana going on and on about how Kendra pulled it off and did such a bang up job. I also recall Tana sort of trying to take the credit for everything in front of the execs. Kendra also went in and woke up Tana to tell her that she had spent all night finishing the brochure and that it was beautiful. Tana and Craig certainly acted as if they hadn't seen it before when they looked over it the next morning.
As for part one of the Finale, Tana showed her "dark side." I don't think her task was that much harder than Kendra's. I think Kendra pulled her team together and things went more smoothly. What Tana obviously didn't do was to go behind everyone to be sure that major tasks were accomplished to her specifications. Remember how Bill Rancic (sp?) Apprentice #1 did that and even apologized to his team for following up on everything, but explaining to them that this was his big moment and he couldn't let anything slide by him. Tana let a lot of things slide. Not reading the program before it is sent to the printer? That is a HUGE misstep! Two of team members seemed to be actually trying hard to help her. Chris even said he wanted to do everything he could to help Tana win. But Tana treated him with utter disrespect. And that whole show she put on at the end -- waiting for the worker ants to climb into their SUV before she hurried and ducked into her limo. I sure wouldn't want to work for her with an attitude like that!
I really wanted Tana to win, but not anymore. She proved that the more power she is given, the more obnoxious she becomes.
~Debby
I'm not sure I believe that the brochure was practically finished when Craig and Tana went to bed. I recall Tana going on and on about how Kendra pulled it off and did such a bang up job. I also recall Tana sort of trying to take the credit for everything in front of the execs. Kendra also went in and woke up Tana to tell her that she had spent all night finishing the brochure and that it was beautiful. Tana and Craig certainly acted as if they hadn't seen it before when they looked over it the next morning.
As for part one of the Finale, Tana showed her "dark side." I don't think her task was that much harder than Kendra's. I think Kendra pulled her team together and things went more smoothly. What Tana obviously didn't do was to go behind everyone to be sure that major tasks were accomplished to her specifications. Remember how Bill Rancic (sp?) Apprentice #1 did that and even apologized to his team for following up on everything, but explaining to them that this was his big moment and he couldn't let anything slide by him. Tana let a lot of things slide. Not reading the program before it is sent to the printer? That is a HUGE misstep! Two of team members seemed to be actually trying hard to help her. Chris even said he wanted to do everything he could to help Tana win. But Tana treated him with utter disrespect. And that whole show she put on at the end -- waiting for the worker ants to climb into their SUV before she hurried and ducked into her limo. I sure wouldn't want to work for her with an attitude like that!
I really wanted Tana to win, but not anymore. She proved that the more power she is given, the more obnoxious she becomes.
~Debby
Does anyone honestley think Kendra could hang with the likes of Bill and Kwami from season 1 and Kelly and Jennifer from season 2?? I think not. She is a real estate broker, not a corporate executive, give me a break, the show has gone downhilll since season 1. I am done watching it.
I keep hearing people go on about how Kendra had such an easy task compared to Tana. I'm not sure about that. Unless all these people have organized an event like that I don't think any of us can make that judgement.
However, that being said. Even if Kendra had an 'easier' task. Tana is the only person to blame for the fiasco she made of her task. So, if she loses (and I hope after her performance that she does), she's the only one to blame for it.
Didn't we see this on T.V.? Then it has to be real. Of course Kendra did the entire brochure all by herself while tana & craig looked on. We saw it on T.V.
We have been assimilated successfully.
I'm not sure I believe that the brochure was practically finished when Craig and Tana went to bed. I recall Tana going on and on about how Kendra pulled it off and did such a bang up job. I also recall Tana sort of trying to take the credit for everything in front of the execs. Kendra also went in and woke up Tana to tell her that she had spent all night finishing the brochure and that it was beautiful. Tana and Craig certainly acted as if they hadn't seen it before when they looked over it the next morning.
Well, no, nobody seems to want to believe that the last 5 or so episodes were edited to set up a Tana/Kendra face off. What bugs me about all of this is that in almost eveyr case in regards to Kednra, we never actually "see" her do anything.
1. We didn't see her come up with the golf task exclusivity deal
2. We didn't see her come up with the pizaa marketing strategy
3. We didn't see exactly what was left to do to keep Kendra "up all night" on the brochure task.
4. We didn't see Kendra come up with th idea to send an e-mail to the artist's mailing in the t-shirt task.
5. We didn't see her really manage her video final task.
These are all things we heard about. So, why is it that none of this stuff was either a) not caught on tape or b) edited into the show? Where is all this actual work and ideas and creativity and toil and sweat? All I've "seen" Kendra do is walk around with that Moon Face of hers, saying things like "I don't know, we could price it at $25 or $30 or something." I've never seen her give a business based answer to anything. And God forbid you question or doubt her because she'll cross her arms and drop her jaw and widen her eyes with that obnoxious "You're so stupid" face.
Where's this fantastic business mind that everyone talks about? How come we SAW Kelly and Bill develop and execute ideas? How come we SAW them execute their tasks?
The editors worked overtime in splicing this season together, because if Tana was always such a horrible leader and so deluded, we never SAW it until the last few episodes.
It blows my mind how people are basing opinions on things that we've never even seen. We doin't know if she "pulled her team together." We don't how she "handled" the VIP's. We barely saw her task. Granted,Tana blew it. But Kendra's been given a hell of an edit.
Moxie,
You hit the nail on the head. They didn't develop Kendra to be all that we heard. It looked more like they played with us to show Kendra magically putting together everything she touched to perfection.
I keep thinking which of the two I'd rather work with or for, after all is said and done, and I still would rather work with Tana. She got the show on despite all the set backs, and they didn't bother to show us if it was a success.
Kendra's we know was a total success.
"Remember how Bill Rancic (sp?) Apprentice #1 did that and even apologized to his team for following up on everything, but explaining to them that this was his big moment and he couldn't let anything slide by him."
Excellent Point! Bill may have been a bit overboard, but he ensured everything was done correctly, and he had an excellent team. Good managers I have reported to also check to make sure everything is done correctly before the client arrives, pulling the team together for a meeting before the presentation to make sure we are prepared.
It seems this is the business lesson so many Apprenticers have missed - communication with your team. Or it is edited out.
Although we never saw Kendra suggest those ideas, do you think the editors did voiceovers for everyone giving her credit for the idea? Yes, creative editing can do a serious makeover job on someone's ability, but I find it hard to believe it would be that overboard.
Still, I will submit that they needed to have a woman win this year, but I think both Kendra and Tana were worthy opponents, and some others were sidelined by bad luck, but most of the others were not cut out for it.
Bill Rancic and season 1 were excellent, last season were a pairing off of robots; Robocop versus Fembot, and he with the least personality would win. Kelly was effective, but nothing more.
How about like Survivor, seasons down the road they do an All Star Apprentice? Put Rancic and Troy against any of these folks and then we will REALLY have a show.
I would have liked to see Kendra actually win this thing instead of being told how well she did. Now that I think about it, it was Kendra who told us how well she did in her interviews after each project.
Even she had to admit her team pulled out all the stops for her and did better on this project then the one's they PM'd. Though we only saw a few minutes of it.
The only reason Tana (&Craig) made it as far as they have is because they were dumped by thier original teammates because they were so useless; and because of Kendra's marketing strategies to keep her team winning...so the firing kept happening on the other team. Kendra was the only conistant thing about team Magna's miraculous winning streak-think about it!
I'm glad someone else noticed that. As "Street Smarts" lost week after week,they kept choosing who they THOUGHT was the best person, totally overlooking the real brains in the bunch!!
Kendra was the only conistant thing about team Magna's miraculous winning streak-think about it!
Well, there was also the fact that Chris was like an albatross around NW's neck and Alex was equally useless once he switched over. So, keeping NW weak certainly aided in Magna's "winning streak." And how much would you like to bet that strategic move was planned by producers. Keep Alex and Chris around to drag team NW down. That way they all get cannedone after the other and we're left with...OH MY GOD!...the Final 3. So, Kendra avoids the boardroom.
I'm always suspect of a candidate's supposed greatness when all we hear are voice overs and after the fact confessionals. I'll give credit when I see it, not when I hear about it. And all we did was hear about kendra's ability. What we saw, an awful lot, was her whining and crossing her arms in front of her chest. Bill in the Casino task, Kelly in the QVC task. We saw these guys come up with ideas. We saw these guys manage people. All we saw of Kendra was a couple shots of her telling Michael to "hang the posters there."
Fix. Comnplete Fix. Trump had to hire a woman (he admitted on Deutch's show last night that he was "under pressure to hire a female") and they rigged the season to accomplish a Female Final Two.
Kendra is the winner because not only did Michael come through for her once but twice during her task. I watched the extended scenes on yahoo.
Kendra did a lot of pointing and her team did the work. Great job if you can get it. Michael put the VIP lounge together for the before the show cocktail party. Danny helped with that also.
This one was handed to Kendra. Trump wants her and he got her. Michael has really turned out to be the man of the hour.
I think the women far outshined the men anyways, so that was an easy task to comply with. Kendra Kicked-Butt with dignity intact. Poor Tana and the humiliation she must feel after showing her true nasty self to the whole world! Too bad her final task wasn't a make-up makover. Maybe she should have given all of the athletes a "Bedazzled" t-shirt, after all she had a LOT left over from her last project!
Michael is the only one of the returning teammates that I don't remember from the show. What was his downfall?
I can't remember his downfall either. Nor his project. After watching him put together both the Sony room and the VIP room, I'm impressed.
I have to say that if Kendra was given the hooligans to work her project we would have seen the same response from her that we saw from Tana about them. Remember, they did show Kendra talking about Michael's bad attitude. She took pot shots too. As it turned out, she was entirely wrong about him.
Can you imagine what she would have been saying about Chris, Kendra and Brian had they been on her team? Kendra got lucky. She should take some of that $250k and spend it on her teammates when she takes them out on the town.
They just baubled this season all around.
Stretching out the finale? Stupid. Like anyone in their right mind will think there is actually a chance he'd hire Tana. NBC got greedy for sweeps ratings and ended up shooting themseleves in the foot.They stretched the finale through May, but unfortunately no one cares enough about the final 2 canddiates (or the rest of the cast) to waste an hour of time to watch the ending. We know who wins, who wants to sit through Trump pontificating, Kristen snotterviewing, Audrey whining, Chris talking about his arrest and Alex being a prick. And it';s after a one hour Will and Grace??? Does anyone even watch that show anymore? This finale is being buried.
It's funny how a 3 hour Survivor finale can be engrossing and interesting yet a 3 hour Apprentice finale can make people want to stick their tongue in a fan.
Michael won a task as project manager, then, on the next task, he brought up some real stupid idea. When the teamates told him his idea was no good, he pushed it. Then he turned into a huge baby and basically quit. He rode his exempt status the whole time, and then they tried to fire him anyway. They (Danny) actually brought Michael into the board room while he was exempt, because they felt so strongly about having him fired.
He never improved. He chose to be a baby from there on and got fired soon after.
you can recap here:
http://apprentice.tv.yahoo.com/03/index.html
If someone wants to see additional footage that we didn't get to see - there is plenty of it on yahoo apprentice site. See if you can find some confirmation to your "conspiracy theories" there. You can also read very detailed recaps at www.televisionwithoutpity.com if you are not sure you remember the details.
As far as all of these "edited/rigged to make Kendra look good" conspiracy theories: what is the motivation? Tana has three years of college from the University of Virginia while Kendra has B.A from the University of Florida. There is really not much difference in education between them and Tana went to a better school. The tasks are pre-planned before they even know the final two competitors.
If Kendra's task was so easy, how come Kendra and her team had to work through the night (Erin said in an interview that they only got an hour of sleep) to accomplish it? As far as timing goes: Kendra's was 12pm-8pm while Tana's 11am-7pm (also from yahoo). The basement, for example, looked terrible the night before and they had to clean it up by noon. I'd imagine there was a number of competition rounds before the evening.
As far as "missing American flag" - there was one hanging there and someone suggested to get it down, but Tana refused and said "the show must go on". When people on her team argued, Tana refused to make a decision: she was just repeating to one what another said. In another instance, someone came to her with a problem and she asked why he brought it to her instead of handling it. If her team members were so incompetent, how come she delegated everything to them? I am sure that there was a lot that she did right that we didn't get to see, but she did make more mistakes than Kendra. The main thing was, though, is not the mistakes. It is how she treated her team. And you cannot blame this on editing.
Incidentally, do you really think Burnett cares who wins? What he wants is higher ratings, so he shows us the most entertaining stuff. He showed us all mistakes Bill and Kelly made in previous seasons. Pray tell me, what advantage would it be to both Trump and Burnett to give out the outcome before the final? In fact, they really tried to make it sound as if it were a close call - bringing up a Danny issue; bringing up Kendra's not becoming a PM until late in the game. Kendra just didn't give them enough to work with.
As far as making Tana look bad: they can edit stuff out, but they cannot make it up. For them to show how badly Tana behaved towards her team, this must've had happened. The rude remark about Kendra's not having left anything in Florida to be on the show (because of course, all of us single women have nothing to leave at home) was also made by Tana.
In the Pontiac brochure case -- when Tana and Craig went to sleep they were looking through the pictures. We saw that. Kendra had to finish choosing pictures, arrange them, decide on the colors, the text. This was pretty much clear from the final show, when the only thing Tana could mention is the idea of the round shape. When Kendra agreed but said that there was much more to the brochure: pictures, colors, and text, Tana had nothing to say. BTW, the final brochure also had a place for a promotional CD (which both Tana and Craig didn't want) and for personal cards. Since Tana didn't seem at the loss for words yesterday - even interrupting Bill and others who criticized her - she would've brought it up if the brochure were indeed finished.
I don't understand how people can seriously think that Craig could've passed any kind of interviews: the guy cannot form a coherent sentence. "I let them burn their own bridges" - huh? It is apprent from all of his post-Apprentice interviews, so you cannot blame this on editing. His language skills are below that of most first-generation immigrants. English is not my native language, but I certainly know it better than Craig. He also doesn't appear to be able to work with younger women - Angie, Audrey and Tara all complained that he is difficult to work with. Angie mentioned it in post-apprentice interviews as well. "I am giving you credit that you don't even deserve, young lady". The guy would be a liability in any organization.
You can also read very detailed recaps at www.televisionwithoutpity.com if you are not sure you remember the details.
Major word and shout out to Miss Alli's re-caps, but that forum has become like a high school girl's room. I stopped reading that board after the t-shirt task and checked in this week. Nothing has changed. Half the posters have no real concept of business or management, so their opinions are just tainted with ignorance and venom. Bitch, bitch, bitch - Tana's got big teeth, Tana hates single people, I hate Tana's makeup, Tana had plastic surgery. It's become a petty bitch fest between a bunch of oddly obsessed viewers. Some of y'all need to grasp the reality that not everyone thought Kendra was so freakin' fantastic.
As far as "missing American flag" - there was one hanging there and someone suggested to get it down, but Tana refused and said "the show must go on".
Perfect example of what I'm talking about. In the finale, Tana said all the flags were accounted for including the american flag. But when it came time to use it it was "missing." The one hanging was the one that was there the whole time and that needed to be up there and that had no stem/pole in which to use to hold it. To get it down would have prolonged the parade and taken too long. But no matter what Tana did, you all on TWoP will crucify her and eviscerate her. Hardly fair and balanced.
You guys seem to see and hear what you ant to hear rather than what was actually said. And God forbid someone diagree with you, becasue you swoop like no-life vultures.
Marsha - No one owes you an explantion as to how they feel or to their opinions. I can't stand people who come onto forum boards and get all Judge Judy. People disagree. Deal with it. Don't get all up in their face and demand proof. Maybe sop taking a TV show show personally.
In the Pontiac brochure case -- when Tana and Craig went to sleep they were looking through the pictures. We saw that. Kendra had to finish choosing pictures, arrange them, decide on the colors, the text.
What we saw was Kendra at a computer writing words down. We didn't see anything more. At least I didn't. Some of you people have imagined and made stuff up in your heads that Kendra did, I swear.
I have been a Kendra fan since early on and I am extremely gratified. She was always clear, fair and level headed.
Tana has great enthusiam and a natural salesperson, but she started to get on my nerves with her effusive, somewhat phoney personality. Clearly she is not a manager, and her belief that she could spin everyone as to how great her task went became annoying. In the business world people don't pay much attention to that kind of hype and are actually turned off by it.
Tana was supremely overconfident in the cab ride back last week, without having any idea as to how Kendras' task went! That in itself was a big red flag for me. She overestimated herself and underestimated her competition. Not smart.
Tanas' display last night about the brocure was appalling. Actually, Kendra gave credit and was the one who mentioned that Tana designed the brocures' shape. Tana jumped on that and tried to parlay it to appeal to the crowd - another gross over-reach on her part. It reminded me of the WWF, not pretty at all.
They both knew what was going to happen. Kendra looked like the cat that ate the canary and Tana just looked like a cat - a cornered alley cat. Kendra is smart egnough after seeing the latest episode that Trump could not have hired Tana, while Tana was immediately defensive and desperate.
Regardless of education, Kendra out-brained and outclassed Tana big time.
Gotta say I agree with the TWoP criticism. It's gotten out of hand. No one can say anything about Kendra without inviting a pile on. I'll go back on there next season to comment, but have no desire to deal with some of the harpies on there now. You'd think kendra was their sister or daughter or BFF the way they get so nasty and confrontational.
Ironically, they all keep joking about Tana's "she has nothing" comment about Kendra and how they, as single people, resent it and just because they arten't married doesn't mean they have nothing.
They're right, being single doesn't make them losers. Sitting on a posting board at all hours of the day and night re-hashing the same crap over and over again and picking apart people's arguments to the minutiae? THAT'S what makes people think they have nothing going on in their lives.
I have worked with Kendra at Re/Max, in Delray Beach, FL. She is always high energy & extremely intelligent and kind. She would turn in 10 contracts on real estate deals at a time while other realtors would turn in maybe one a month. Trump Org. is very lucky to have her and should treat her well...or like she said in her interview, she'll become his competition!
Honestly? Does anyone care about this anymore?
Tana's on the Omaorsa track and Kendra will probably be decorating the walls of her office with colored push pins just like Kelly.
The onyl reason why Bill Rancic has stayed in the public eye is because he has a semblance of a personality and is a good public speaker. Kelly and Kendra are bland and boring. Without sounding mean, Kendra isn't attractive enough to warrant much much press attention. And her interview style is mostly pre-rehearsed answers and distractingly poor elocution. She doesn't seem very intersting, funny or charming - which really is what the apprenticeship is all about. Publicity and wooing the press. Bill does it well. He's good looking, he's charming (albeit a bit skittish) AND he happens to be a smart business person.
Tana should have suggested the programs for her task be in the shape of a circle. That would have locked it up for her.
I have no sympathy for Tana left. Like someone else said, this can't simply be a matter of creative editing. You can edit stuff away, but you can't make stuff up out of thin air -- and what we saw was pretty damning.
And if this was all just a matter of creative editing, then Tana sure didn't say much to defend that accusation in the final episode. Unless, of course, "It was a circle!" counts as a convincing defense.
Kendra was a class act. Tana was not. It's just that simple.
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